Positives- Other groups thought that our cinematography like our camera angles and shot types are good and varied.
Generally people liked it.
Negatives- We have found from the feedback of other groups that one negative is that there is to much time opening and closing doors.
There were also mixed reviews about our music some saying we needed more to build tension, however some commented saying it was good.
Credits and titles could have been made clearer or better.
Monday, 21 March 2011
Feedback from other groups
Thursday, 17 March 2011
Final Cut
Wednesday, 16 March 2011
Credits
During todays lesson we are adding our opening credits to our thriller film 'A fool's paradise'. This is proving difficult as we cannot simply add the text without the background. We will focus on removing the back ground this lesson, leaving just the text over the top of the footage of the film.
Monday, 14 March 2011
Sound for our thriller.
We are finding making music for our Thriller 'A fool's paradise' to be very hard as there are only a few different sounds on Garage band; the software we are using.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.
Sound for our thriller.
We are finding making music for our Thriller 'A fool's paradise' to be very hard as there are only a few different sounds on Garage band; the software we are using.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.
Thursday, 10 March 2011
Technique(s) we could have used.
T2-54 Slow motion.
They used slow motion in a part of there opening sequence. we thought this was affective as it slowed it down and made us focus on it for longer.
We would have liked to use this in some of our dreams but we did not have enough time remaining to do it.
Summarizing Feedback
We agree that some of the sound needs to be edited and that there is too much time focused on opening doors. Next week we will be making the music and editing the sound so that the scream isn't as loud etc. we also need to finish doing our credits.
They used slow motion in a part of there opening sequence. we thought this was affective as it slowed it down and made us focus on it for longer.
We would have liked to use this in some of our dreams but we did not have enough time remaining to do it.
Summarizing Feedback
We agree that some of the sound needs to be edited and that there is too much time focused on opening doors. Next week we will be making the music and editing the sound so that the scream isn't as loud etc. we also need to finish doing our credits.
Feedback from T2-51
- Good use of different camera shots and angles
- Flashbacks were clearly shown
- the editing was good as well as the sound as it flowed nicely and created suspense.
- It was clear who the antagonist and protagonist were.
- There is a point when walking out the door, the sound needs to join up.
- The diagetic and non diagetic sound worked well together.
- Other then that is was brill. :D
Labels:
Lewis Mills,
louella hale,
samantha piggott
Feedback From T2-52
We really liked this opening and thought it was really effective. We liked the sound and the flashbacks and the way that it all linked together. It was really mysterious in working out whether the main character we saw was the protagonist or antagonist because when we saw him writing in his notebook after looking at the newspaper , he looked like the protagonist, but when he went home and locked the doors as well as seeing he couldn't get the crime out of his head it made us think he was the antagonist, which made it all the more suspenseful for the target audience as we really wanted to see what was going to happen next.
The micro elements really built up the suspense and tension for us, as well as making us feel even more sorry for the main character because he looked and you could feel his isolation.
The micro elements really built up the suspense and tension for us, as well as making us feel even more sorry for the main character because he looked and you could feel his isolation.
Labels:
Caroline Ullyett,
stephanie rees,
Tim WIlkins
Feedback from T2-53
The overall project is good and the intention of the piece is clear. The shots were varied and creative which allowed the audience to stay interested. The sound of the girl screaming was also very valuable in creating an eerie atmosphere and to help represent the story line.
To improve this we would suggest less time focused on the 'opening of the doors' shot. It seemed too long and it looses the tension which is trying to be built up in this clip.
The clip used thriller characteristics and it was clearly shown that the story line was based on the murder of a girl in which the protagonist was the murderer.
feedback from T2-54
It was brilliant. Difficult to criticize.
The sequence met pretty much all of the thriller conventions.
We like the shots because they made the footage continuous and made perfect sense.
Although, if we had to criticize one thing, the only thing you could improve is how the music is introduced with immediate effect which would have sounded better if it faded into the sequence.
Comments from 49
The opening was very good, but a bit long winded as there was a lot of time focused on the opening of doors, the girls scream was also very piercing which was not too realist and through headphones hurts a bit.
The overall plot was clear but having the bit with the girl being slightly transparent meant that it was had to tell what was going on.
Narrative focus' round murder, this is clear through sound and cuts of tied up girl.
Weakness is that the guy cannot remember what he wants to and is having dreams about it.
The protagonist is not seen in peril, but is seen suffering slightly with his thoughts.
The overall plot was clear but having the bit with the girl being slightly transparent meant that it was had to tell what was going on.
Narrative focus' round murder, this is clear through sound and cuts of tied up girl.
Weakness is that the guy cannot remember what he wants to and is having dreams about it.
The protagonist is not seen in peril, but is seen suffering slightly with his thoughts.
Wednesday, 9 March 2011
Rough Cut: Thriller Opening Sequence.
This is our rough cut of our thriller opening sequence. All the clips are edited and together in the right sequence and timing, the ident is on there and we have used motion key to move part of the image on the logo and part of the music is on there.
What we need to do is put the credits on there and also finish off the music by creating the tune or melody on Garage Band.
We are really pleased with what we have achieved so far. The story line flows well and we think the match on actions work really well. the music that is on it so far is also good as it matches the mood of our opening. The ticking sound that we added in sounds like the clock which carries on through the dream and gets louder when in the dream, which works well as it carries on the sound from reality into the dream.
In the next lesson we will be asking our class peers on what they think of our thriller opening sequence so far and getting feedback off them. We can then use their opinions to improve our thriller if need be.
Wednesday, 2 March 2011
Deadlines
Monday 7th- 9am- filming deadline
Wednesday 9th- 12:20- Rough cut deadline
Thursday 10th- Watching other rough cuts- offering advice ect.
Wednesday 16th- 12:20 - Final cut deadline
Monday 21st - 9am- draft evaluation due in via email.
Wednesday 9th- 12:20- Rough cut deadline
Thursday 10th- Watching other rough cuts- offering advice ect.
Wednesday 16th- 12:20 - Final cut deadline
Monday 21st - 9am- draft evaluation due in via email.
Monday, 14 February 2011
What our your top tips for filming?
Our top tip for filming is to be organised, follow the shot list to how you planned, in a very concise way to minimise confusion and increase efficiency. We made sure in filming that we all arrived at the shot locations on time to make use of all the time we could, gaining us 20 minutes of filming by the end of our filming. We would also suggest filming a lot more than neccessary incase some of our shots are not satisfactory.
Thriller Shot List
This is our shot list for our thriller. We have stuck quite well to this as well as the storyboard, but there are a few change to how the dream was shot.
Target audience.
Our target audience will be viewers aged 15+ as 'Fool's Paradise' is certified 15 following BBFC standards. This means we know our audience quite well, for example it is clear to us that our viewers will be mature, and understand the complex story line of our thriller.
Our target audience would enjoy other films such as Se7en or Momento. Both these films are simular to ours in many ways. Se7en used extensive use of quick cuts to add confusion to the scene, we hope to use a simular effect during our film. Momento is simular to our film as continuity throughout the film is confusing. Our film uses flashbacks and such effects also.
Our target audience would enjoy other films such as Se7en or Momento. Both these films are simular to ours in many ways. Se7en used extensive use of quick cuts to add confusion to the scene, we hope to use a simular effect during our film. Momento is simular to our film as continuity throughout the film is confusing. Our film uses flashbacks and such effects also.
Thriller Storyboard
This is our storyboard for our thiller film. The shots that we have drawn on here our roughly what we have done for our actual shot but with a few tweaks here and there. Some are the same shot context but from a different angle.
Location recee
We filmed our Thriller opening sequence at Liams house and in the grounds as it offers a wide range of locations, from Forested areas to a cafe location which we use in the opening shot.
Shot locations:
Cafe location potential problems: As public use this area we may have to ask permission from people in the cafe if they would mind being on the film, however hopefully the cafe will be empty for our use.
We then follow the protagonist to his house where he lives, this house is Liams and is therefore owned by a family. This causes some problems.
House location potential problems: As Liam has more family members, unlike the protagonist, we will have to hide decorations in the house such as family photos or shoes to give the impression the protagonist lives by himself. Lighting in the living room was very dull and the only light offered was dim lighting through the windows or lighting from the light in the ceiling. This light in the ceiling was very orange so may give a more positive lighting effect for a negative feeling scene.
The dream sequence in our thriller 'Fool's Paradise' is filmed in a forested area, this offers more problems.
Forested location potential problems: The ground on this area may not be level so footing will be hard, especially if we film in the dark. Also this location may have stones on the foor where out Female part will have to fall on the floor, this is a problem we will over come by scouting the floor for potential harmful materials, such as big sticks or stones.
As all our shots were filmed at or in Liams grounds we knew there would not be too many problems with the public being in shot and we could use the locations when we wanted. This was benificial as we didn't have to research the local area so much.
From each of our shots we could hear the main road nearby Liam's house. This added an urban effect to the shots, which may help the viewers identify with the location easier.
Liam's little sister was abscent from the house, which was a good thing as she would not get in the way during filming.
Shot locations:
Cafe location potential problems: As public use this area we may have to ask permission from people in the cafe if they would mind being on the film, however hopefully the cafe will be empty for our use.
We then follow the protagonist to his house where he lives, this house is Liams and is therefore owned by a family. This causes some problems.
House location potential problems: As Liam has more family members, unlike the protagonist, we will have to hide decorations in the house such as family photos or shoes to give the impression the protagonist lives by himself. Lighting in the living room was very dull and the only light offered was dim lighting through the windows or lighting from the light in the ceiling. This light in the ceiling was very orange so may give a more positive lighting effect for a negative feeling scene.
The dream sequence in our thriller 'Fool's Paradise' is filmed in a forested area, this offers more problems.
Forested location potential problems: The ground on this area may not be level so footing will be hard, especially if we film in the dark. Also this location may have stones on the foor where out Female part will have to fall on the floor, this is a problem we will over come by scouting the floor for potential harmful materials, such as big sticks or stones.
As all our shots were filmed at or in Liams grounds we knew there would not be too many problems with the public being in shot and we could use the locations when we wanted. This was benificial as we didn't have to research the local area so much.
From each of our shots we could hear the main road nearby Liam's house. This added an urban effect to the shots, which may help the viewers identify with the location easier.
Liam's little sister was abscent from the house, which was a good thing as she would not get in the way during filming.
Filming Our Thriller
We filmed our Thriller project over the weekend of 12th - 13th of February. Most the filming was done on the Saturday, which was about 4 hours of filming capturing about 15 minutes of film. On Sunday there was only a bit left to film which was the dream sequence so we were only filming for about an hour and a half. At the end of the weekend we have come away with just over 150 clips so we need to do a lot of editing to cut the clip to the 2 minutes.
Over all we think that our filming was very successful. We got many clips, some which we probably won't need but we got all the clis that we wanted to get.
Over all we think that our filming was very successful. We got many clips, some which we probably won't need but we got all the clis that we wanted to get.
Wednesday, 9 February 2011
How we can improve for our Thriller 'Fool's Paradise'.
Taking to account feedback and our own feelings towards our childrens film, we agreed that we need to improve on our Dialogue and Diegetic sound. During the filming of our Childrens film we did not have a script set up, so we improvised the script when we got to the set. We have realised this was a bad idea as preporation is key to filming to a set scheme. Also writing a script will enable us to highlight any negatives or problems in the script. We can also practice our dialogue before hand. Diegetic sound in our childrens film was an issue, especially during Liams monologue where we could hear a shower in the back groud, this made the dialogue harder to hear.
Postitives and Negatives of our Childrens Film
Positives:
We used motion key in the credits at the start of our children's film opening. This is more advanced than just adding text as the credits move across the screen as you choose them to do. We will be using this technique in our thriller project.
We like the match on action that we have used in this task as it fits well with the sequence. It helps show where about the character is as well.
Music
The music that we added into the film opening was done on garage band. It worked well as it fitted the mood of what was going on on screen, empathetic music.
Good Story Line
People from another group who gave us feedback said that our story line was good as it made sense and was relative to the genre.
Negatives:
The speaking in the film opening could have been spoken more clearly. The script could have been better planned so that the dialogue flowed more within the clip.
There is some diegetic sound that was not edited out of our film opening.
Transitions
The transitions that we had were good but we need more variety and more of them.
Motion key
We used motion key in the credits at the start of our children's film opening. This is more advanced than just adding text as the credits move across the screen as you choose them to do. We will be using this technique in our thriller project.
Match on Action
We like the match on action that we have used in this task as it fits well with the sequence. It helps show where about the character is as well.
Music
The music that we added into the film opening was done on garage band. It worked well as it fitted the mood of what was going on on screen, empathetic music.
Good Story Line
People from another group who gave us feedback said that our story line was good as it made sense and was relative to the genre.
Negatives:
Dialogue
The speaking in the film opening could have been spoken more clearly. The script could have been better planned so that the dialogue flowed more within the clip.
Diegetic sound
There is some diegetic sound that was not edited out of our film opening.
Transitions
The transitions that we had were good but we need more variety and more of them.
Monday, 7 February 2011
call sheet research
A call sheet is a film making term for a sheet of paper issued to the cast and crew of a film production, created by an Assistant director, informing them where and when they should report for a particular day of shooting. They also have other useful information like casts contacts (phone numbers e.t.c) and which scenes are going to be shot on that day.
Wednesday, 2 February 2011
Stages to take in order to succeed.
What we need to do?
-Make a time scheme (locations, times, directions.)
-Script writing.
-Story boarding.
-Test shooting.
-Shooting.
-Editing.
writing script. Always do it. write it down in a simple way, actions and emotions.
'ext' 'int'.
Walk through the script. act it out, if possible at the location. this will help identify problems with script or with potential locations.
Helps find problems early.
Location recce. Find locations and diagnose any problems. make notes on what you see/hear. Take photographs. Source local information, car park, toilets, food, camera batteries etc. know everything about our location. Check weather.
Digital storyboard. Go to location and take a variety of different frames, angles and shot types. Print them or put them on your phones as reference for filming. Use google earth to get birds eye view of location maps.
Shot list. Always have a shot list. Annotate your script.
Test shots. Get used to the location.
Get used to the equipment.
Help polish up your script.
Identify props/ costumes needed. (Make up.)
Helps the edit process.
Will definitely help you before the real shoot.
Shooting schedule. Organise your shooting, day/time?
What restrictions do we have (deadlines)
Film your final shoot.
-Make a time scheme (locations, times, directions.)
-Script writing.
-Story boarding.
-Test shooting.
-Shooting.
-Editing.
writing script. Always do it. write it down in a simple way, actions and emotions.
'ext' 'int'.
Walk through the script. act it out, if possible at the location. this will help identify problems with script or with potential locations.
Helps find problems early.
Location recce. Find locations and diagnose any problems. make notes on what you see/hear. Take photographs. Source local information, car park, toilets, food, camera batteries etc. know everything about our location. Check weather.
Digital storyboard. Go to location and take a variety of different frames, angles and shot types. Print them or put them on your phones as reference for filming. Use google earth to get birds eye view of location maps.
Shot list. Always have a shot list. Annotate your script.
Test shots. Get used to the location.
Get used to the equipment.
Help polish up your script.
Identify props/ costumes needed. (Make up.)
Helps the edit process.
Will definitely help you before the real shoot.
Shooting schedule. Organise your shooting, day/time?
What restrictions do we have (deadlines)
Film your final shoot.
Thursday, 27 January 2011
Presentations Q&A
Do we have permission to film in the coffee shop? As the coffee shop is owned by Liams parents he was able to ask them if we will be allowed to film in the coffee shop, we have been given permission, generously.
How will day dreams or night dreams differentiate from 'normal' life filming? We have a few ideas as to how we will make it obvious a flash back is happening, however we need to make a clear distinction between a day dream and a night dream, as night dreams are more disturbing. We will make the flashbacks obvious that they are a memory by perhaps adding echos to the characters voices, this may work as the protagonists memory is not perfect, so the bluring of the speech adds to the lack of information (change this if you don't like it, just a suggestion guys;) We have also considered making the flashbacks black and white.
Does the Protagonist know he is the antagonist also? The protagonist is unaware that he is also the antagonist, however if given the chance to film the whole film, it would follow the protagonists 'adventure' to find out, by stringing together clues, that he is the antagonist.
How are we presenting the credits? We analysed the opening sequence of Se7en and decided amongst us that the credits are really effective, and relevant to the film. Se7en uses quick shots and jump cuts of quite disturbing imagery whilst the credits are rolling, in a strange unfarmiliar font. Since we used a more advanced type of credits on the Childrens opening sequence, we feel we should go one step further and advance it further; perhaps by creating out own font on Photoshop, as opposed to the set fonts supplied by Final Cut.
What music will we use? As our movie is certified 15 we decided that the music should be more mature. Following thriller conventions we must creat a lot of suspense, using 'cresendos' (music getting louder) and loud noises. We will also use diegetic sound in the coffee shop, however as these sounds may be too quiet to pick up on camera we may need to record typical 'coffee shop noises' and add them over the top of the filming.
How will day dreams or night dreams differentiate from 'normal' life filming? We have a few ideas as to how we will make it obvious a flash back is happening, however we need to make a clear distinction between a day dream and a night dream, as night dreams are more disturbing. We will make the flashbacks obvious that they are a memory by perhaps adding echos to the characters voices, this may work as the protagonists memory is not perfect, so the bluring of the speech adds to the lack of information (change this if you don't like it, just a suggestion guys;) We have also considered making the flashbacks black and white.
Does the Protagonist know he is the antagonist also? The protagonist is unaware that he is also the antagonist, however if given the chance to film the whole film, it would follow the protagonists 'adventure' to find out, by stringing together clues, that he is the antagonist.
How are we presenting the credits? We analysed the opening sequence of Se7en and decided amongst us that the credits are really effective, and relevant to the film. Se7en uses quick shots and jump cuts of quite disturbing imagery whilst the credits are rolling, in a strange unfarmiliar font. Since we used a more advanced type of credits on the Childrens opening sequence, we feel we should go one step further and advance it further; perhaps by creating out own font on Photoshop, as opposed to the set fonts supplied by Final Cut.
What music will we use? As our movie is certified 15 we decided that the music should be more mature. Following thriller conventions we must creat a lot of suspense, using 'cresendos' (music getting louder) and loud noises. We will also use diegetic sound in the coffee shop, however as these sounds may be too quiet to pick up on camera we may need to record typical 'coffee shop noises' and add them over the top of the filming.
Mise-en-scene of our thriller
Mise-en-scene:
Props- Knife, Kettle, Blood, Tea, coffee, cups, everyday items, Bed, newspaper
Costume- Everyday clothes, Suede coat, Waiters outfit, pjs
Make Up- Blood to show been stabbed, bruises
Set- The site of darwin nurseries and farm shop, wooded area, cafe, kitchen, bedroom,
Colour- Dark colours mostley plain. black and white affect for flash backs.
Lighting- Dark for the flashbacks, natural.
Props- Knife, Kettle, Blood, Tea, coffee, cups, everyday items, Bed, newspaper
Costume- Everyday clothes, Suede coat, Waiters outfit, pjs
Make Up- Blood to show been stabbed, bruises
Set- The site of darwin nurseries and farm shop, wooded area, cafe, kitchen, bedroom,
Colour- Dark colours mostley plain. black and white affect for flash backs.
Lighting- Dark for the flashbacks, natural.
Wednesday, 26 January 2011
Fool's Paradise, 'snap down'.
0-10 seconds - Ident 'Clockwork productions.
11-20 seconds - 'day dream whilst waiting for kettle' cuts back to kettle. Point of view shot of Lucy being killed, the identity of the killer is kept secret.
21-30 seconds - awakes from the day dream. coffee man pours him coffee, asks if he is alright. notes something down.
31-40 seconds - looks at the newspaper, zooms in on the headline about murder.
41 - 50 seconds - reads the title and walks out the shop and back home
51 - 60 seconds - goes into his house, into the lounge, looks stressed
61 - 70 seconds - flash back, a bit more information about the killing comes back
71 - 80 seconds - writes another note down about the flash backs
81 - 90 seconds - its getting dark so closes the curtains but looks through the window first, then locks the door.
91 - 100 seconds - goes to bed
101 - 110 seconds - a dream about the killing, credits start to roll.
111 - 120 seconds -Credits finish as protagonist wakes up from the dream in shock.
11-20 seconds - 'day dream whilst waiting for kettle' cuts back to kettle. Point of view shot of Lucy being killed, the identity of the killer is kept secret.
21-30 seconds - awakes from the day dream. coffee man pours him coffee, asks if he is alright. notes something down.
31-40 seconds - looks at the newspaper, zooms in on the headline about murder.
41 - 50 seconds - reads the title and walks out the shop and back home
51 - 60 seconds - goes into his house, into the lounge, looks stressed
61 - 70 seconds - flash back, a bit more information about the killing comes back
71 - 80 seconds - writes another note down about the flash backs
81 - 90 seconds - its getting dark so closes the curtains but looks through the window first, then locks the door.
91 - 100 seconds - goes to bed
101 - 110 seconds - a dream about the killing, credits start to roll.
111 - 120 seconds -Credits finish as protagonist wakes up from the dream in shock.
Cast and Crew- Fool's Paradise
Protagonist- Jack
Antagonist - Jack
Protagonists Partner - Lucy dickinson.
Crew- Liam Mills & Matt Bryan.
Liam and Matt as crew will be filming the shots of Jack and Lucy, finding props.
Lucy Dickinson- Protagonists partner
Matt Bryan- Crew member
Jack Kiff- Protagonist (Nominated for 7 baftas 2009)
Liam Mills- Crew member
Film classification-15
15 Classification:
We have classified our thriller as a 15 age rating. This is because it has most of the conventions of a 15. the main reason we have classed it as a 15 is that we will have some violence but we will not show the character in pain or the actual action.
- Discrimination- must not endorse discriminatory behavior or language
- Drugs- can be shown but must not encourage or promote buying or taking
- Horror- threat and menace are allowed but not sadistic or sexualized
- Imitative Behavior- Dangerous behaviour must not dwell in detail
- Language-Frequent use of strong language acceptable if justified by context
- Nudity- Nudity may be shown in sexual content but not in detail
- Sex- Sexual activity may be shown but not in detail
- Violence- Violence may be shown but it is unacceptable to show the character in pain. Violent sexual content may not be shown but violent sexual talk is allowed.
- Themes-All themes are acceptable
We have classified our thriller as a 15 age rating. This is because it has most of the conventions of a 15. the main reason we have classed it as a 15 is that we will have some violence but we will not show the character in pain or the actual action.
Thriller Moodboard.
This is our moodboard for our thriller film. We have put the melted clocks on the moodboard as the time period changes in the film like in the dreams or flash backs. This is also why we have put a time machine picture on here as the flash backs go back in time. We wrote 'Dreams' on our mood board because dreaming, and day dreaming are recurring themes in our thriller 'Fool's Paradise'. Clues is also relevant because the protagonist takes on the challenge of finding out who or why his loved one died, he finds out using clues. The two films we have put on there, 'Memento' and 'Identity', are similar thriller films to our own one. In both films the protagonist has to find out clues to figure out a death or to how someone died, these follow thriller conventions.
Monday, 24 January 2011
Thriller name & Narrative
Possible Thriller titles; 'Fool's Paradise' 'Iterate'
Fool's paradise is relevant because it is a term used to describe day dreaming, an issue our protagonist 'suffers' or benefits from. We felt this is a good name for our movie because it doesn't give a lot of the plot away, also it refers to the protagonists weakness.
Iterate means recurring, we felt this was relevant to our film because the protagonists day dreams and dreams keep repeating themselves. However we felt 'Iterate' wasn't as strong a name for out thriller.
An isolated protagonist had a loved one killed, and he takes on the role of finding out who, or why she/he was killed. This protagonist has recurring dreams and day dreams about how or why his loved one may have died; the night dreams are more detailed, therefore more 'disturbing'. Throughout these dreams the protagonist picks up little pieces of information to put them back together, and finally finds out why or how his loved one died(it was him). Because of this we feel 'Fool's paradise' is a relevant name for the movie.
Location-Darwin Nurseries
Our main location in our thriller is darwin nurseries and farm shop. We have chosen this location as it has the advantages of a farm, field, wood area, shop and house. Having the main road going past give us a good range of diegetic sound. This follows the convention of a thriller as it makes it more realistic as there is natural diegetic sound which people can relate to.
Preparing for thriller pitch
We will be presenting our planning from the blog to the rest of the class. WE will then hold a Q+A and type this onto the blog. We hope to use the criticism and help the class give us to help improve our thriller opening sequence.
Thursday, 20 January 2011
This is our production logo for our thriller opening. Our production name is 'A Clockwork production' and this was just a name we came up with. We started off with the forest image then added clocks from the Dali painting. We used the melting clocks from the painting as our back ground was cartoon so it would blend in. Also, the clocks go with our name. We then added the warped clock on the noose to give it more of a thriller feel.
Paramount Logo
The Paramount intro is suited to many different types of movie. however unlike some production logos, they don't change their logo suited to the film. In Madagascar, which is a cartoon, the logo stayed the same. The logo also stayed the same for movies like Disturbia. Paramount doesn't really relate to any genre of film so can be used for basically all of the genres.
Monday, 17 January 2011
S2-50 Marking Analysis.
We don't really like the way they have done this production label as we don't think it is in context to the thriller genre. As is the same with the music to the production logo.
In this thriller opening there are many different shots and they are all long shots apart from a few that are mid shots. There isn't a variety of shot distances, which isn't too good but it works well with the clip because they need long shots to portray what is going on. The material they are shooting is appropriate to the task/narrative as they are shooting deserted streets. They are basic cuts to each scene but it works well because it is all like a slow montage of deserted streets to give you the picture that no one is around. The sound they have used in the clip is mainly dialogue as it is cuts from different news broadcasts. There is extra sound that is played when changing between the news broadcasts. The titles are good but are really quite basic and quite boring to watch. For the mise-en-scene, there isn't any like costumes or anything as there are no people in it. The colour has been darkened as they have used filters over a few of the shots to make the scene look a bit darker, which makes it feel more alone/deserted. The scenes are shot during the day so the lighting would be quite bright if they didn't have a filter over the shots. This portrays the loneliness even more as people should be about in the day time.
Thursday, 13 January 2011
Harry brown- Crime Thriller
This film is very clearly set in a city, most probably london. The set is very important in Harry Brown as it allows the characters to do the things they do, and act the way they act. In the first scene we see, what i believe may be the protagonist, inhale some drugs because his peers persuaded him to.
The costume in this film are also very important as the clothes they wear are hugely stereotypical of the area and people they are. This helps the veiwer identify and understand the characters.
We see the protagonist shoot a lady.. and then run off. Because this act seems so sureal, questions are asked as to why they did this, perhaps it was just to scare her but it went wrong. After the shooting they get hit by a lorry.
No country for old men- Crime Thriller
No country for old men is set in the country of America, following the work of a sheriff, a member of the police force. The set of the movie is well established at the begginning of the movie with a number of establishing shots, which clearly illustrate how lonely the area is.
We are instantly introduced to the Protagonist via a monologue, which tells the horrible story of a 14 year old boy who commited a crime, this raises questions to the veiwer, 'what kind of area is this' for example.
The audience see the protagonist in great peril in the police station, as the criminal he has caught subtly pulls his hands from behind his back to his front in order for him to be able to strangle the sherriff to death. The veiwer sees the criminal move and wants to warn the sheriff, but of course this is impossible. Because of this the scene seems very powerful, and shocks the veiwer.
Deja vu- Crime Thriller
Deja vu is a conventional crime thriller for many reasons. After the bomb explodes the viewer is left wondering who commited this attack on so many civilians, and children, also why they may have done it. We are then introduced to the Protagonist of the film, who is a well known actor, Denzel Washington.
Leading up to the explosion non-empathetic music is playing, to emphasize the mood of the passangers on the boat, who are all excited and enjoying what seems like a party. Because of this un-empathetic music the explosion seems much more of a surprise, so adds to the shock of the movie.
The location of the film is in a city, so a very average place. This makes the viewer more able to relate to the movie, so can follow it acting as the protagonist easier. (voyeurism)
The title of the movie does not give away what may happen in the film, plot wise, however i predict that the attacks seen in the first scene may be repeated, or non-linear continuaty will occurr, to add a deja vu element to the movie.
Crime thrillers
Protagonist usually had a bad past
Well known actors
Secret organisations with lots of gadgets
Binary opposite opposites, conflict between old and young.
Main character gets majority of screen time
Protagonist has a vulnerable family, perhaps. This is their driving force/motivation
Wait to the end to find out who the antagonist is.
Isolated crime scenes, stereotypical.
Opposite sex distracting.
Basic locations
Tension building music
Well known actors
Secret organisations with lots of gadgets
Binary opposite opposites, conflict between old and young.
Main character gets majority of screen time
Protagonist has a vulnerable family, perhaps. This is their driving force/motivation
Wait to the end to find out who the antagonist is.
Isolated crime scenes, stereotypical.
Opposite sex distracting.
Basic locations
Tension building music
Leon
Conventions for action film:
In action films it normally involves good characters trying to defeat bad characters. There are normally a large group of bad characters and only a few good characters and they have to rise against them. During the film you can expect innocent people to be harmed or killed. You will see the main character suffer at some point during the film because he/she will have a weakness. The film will be set in a normal environment like a city (a public everyday place).
We are introduced to the main character near the start. He is portrayed as being sly and skillful as he takes down about 10 of the bad guys without them having a chance to get him. We are also introduced to who appears to be the leader of a gang. He comes across this way as he is dressed in a suit and he is feared yet respected by his people that he is with. We also see that he is a drug addict. there is also a small girl who we know is the daughter of one of the men who gets killed. we also see that she knows the main character and is helping him out by buying some milk.
During the action scenes the editing involves faster cuts and jump cuts to add tension to the scene and also makes it feel more fast pace. *
In action films it normally involves good characters trying to defeat bad characters. There are normally a large group of bad characters and only a few good characters and they have to rise against them. During the film you can expect innocent people to be harmed or killed. You will see the main character suffer at some point during the film because he/she will have a weakness. The film will be set in a normal environment like a city (a public everyday place).
We are introduced to the main character near the start. He is portrayed as being sly and skillful as he takes down about 10 of the bad guys without them having a chance to get him. We are also introduced to who appears to be the leader of a gang. He comes across this way as he is dressed in a suit and he is feared yet respected by his people that he is with. We also see that he is a drug addict. there is also a small girl who we know is the daughter of one of the men who gets killed. we also see that she knows the main character and is helping him out by buying some milk.
During the action scenes the editing involves faster cuts and jump cuts to add tension to the scene and also makes it feel more fast pace. *
The Prestige
Mise-en-scene
The costumes in the Prestige are very important to set the time period of the film. Everyone is dressed in dull colours as during this time the technology wasn't available to produce the colours. However when the magicians are performing they wear more elaborate clothing.
The make up is minimal in this film to make it seem more realistic & simplistic. The females however wear a little make up when performing to make themselves appeal more to the audience they're performing for.
Lighting in The Prestige is minimal, and dull, to emphasize the time period. I feel this because this was a very industrial period, and poverty was high. This is portrayed in the dull, negative feeling the lighting gives off. Also the confusion of the film is shown in the darkness of the scenes, as the viewer is unable to see some small details, which means not too much is given away. therefore the viewer can't predict the ending too hard, following the theory of voyeurism.
Narrative themes
The theme throughout The Prestige seems to be rivalry, finding out why, how or when, a lot of the time. This is underlying the most obvious theme of the movie; magic.
Character roles
The roles of the males are to figure out what each other are doing (the binary opposites)
Conventional for a thriller?
The Prestige is conventional for a thriller because it asks a lot of questions, which are not answered until the last scene. All the way through the viewer is wondering how things are happening & why they're are happening.
Wednesday, 12 January 2011
Vantage Point
Psychological Conventions
Conventions of a Psychological Thriller:
- Clever Characters-thinking ahead
- It messes with your head
- There is a mis-leading story- plot twists
- Unusual happenings- extraordinary
- Film works up to chocking reveal
- Characters have fascination/fear and death
- Danger on a mental level rather than physical
- Characters try and find their own purpose
- Characters in conflict with their mind- they don't know what is true or not
- 2 or more characters preying on each-others sanity.
Political Conventions
- Uses many locations, focuses on different cultures and countries
- 'false heroes', someone who we think is good but ends up turning out not to be good.
- 'helper', provides the protagonist with something useful
- threat is set against a background of political struggle
- plots are designed to give political power to someone while the opponents try to prevent this
- innocent people are drawn into the political world
- trying to prove innocence
- 'false heroes', someone who we think is good but ends up turning out not to be good.
- 'helper', provides the protagonist with something useful
- threat is set against a background of political struggle
- plots are designed to give political power to someone while the opponents try to prevent this
- innocent people are drawn into the political world
- trying to prove innocence
Monday, 10 January 2011
The Prestige Opening Analysis
mise en scene :
- costume- in the opening scene of the prestige we see that it is set in olden times as all the characters and extras in the opening are wearing old fashioned clothes.
- sets- in the opening scene we see that the main set is going to be the stage or the theatre
- colour- in the opening to the prestige the colours are all really plain, dull and boring for example the costumes and the sets are all brown, grey, black and white.
- lighting- the lighting is very dark and gloomy this is to add tension to the scene.
- props- some props that are used are all the magic equipment. this tells us that is is going to have something to do with magic. this also tells us that it is set in the olden times as there isn't any modern things e.g. computers.
- make-up- there isn't very much make up used because it is old fashioned so they didn't have much then.
- Magic
- Rivalry
- Revenge
- Secracy
- A Competition
- Main: - Angier - strong character, ambitious, confident, wise
- Borden - calm, clever, confident
- Cutter - superior, respected, clever, wise
Others: - Julia Angier - confident, respected
- Sarah Borden - weaker character, easily persuaded
- Olivia Wenscombe - confident character, can be miss leaded
Is it Conventional for a thriller?
- i think that the prestige is coventional for a thriller as it includes many conventions of a thriller. for example it has many un-answered questions, a few main characters and some other characters aswell. this thriller also has a crime right at the start even though we see it wasn't him they still think it was in the film.
The Prestige Opening Analysis.
Mise-en-Scene:
Costume - They are wearing old fashioned clothes, tells you it is set in the past.
Sets - The stage/theatre, the prison, in the mountains in Colorado, on a train, in a hotel, back stage
Colour - the colours are dull, sets the time period
Lighting - quite dark, makes it more mysterious as is the genre; magic/illusions/trickery
Props - magic equipment, horses and carriages (again, setting the time period. tells you it is about the 1800's as cars weren't around then, walking stick, hand cuffs.
Make up - normal, nothing over the top as they are normal people/characters, one person is wearing a disguise including a fake beard and added skin.
Narrative Themes:
- Magic and how it started
- Competition
- Revenge
- Secrecy
- Rivalry
Character Roles:
Main: - Angier - strong character, ambitious, confident, clever
- Borden - relaxed, clever
- Cutter - superior, respected, clever
Others: - Julia Angier - confident, respected
- Sarah Borden - weaker character, easily persuaded
- Olivia Wenscombe - confident character, can be miss leaded
Conventional for a thriller?
Yes, i think this is conventional for a thriller. A thriller will have a few main characters with rivalry between them. The mise-en-scene helps to add effect to the scenes, e.g. the lighting helps make it more mysterious as it is darker.
Seven - Psychological Thriller
Binary opposite- Morgan freeman, older, wiser, organised, he has seen a lot. MES, costume is neater, props layed out. Metronome- to help him sleep.
Brad Pitt- younger , messier, unorganised. cocky.
Unanswered questions- Titles introduced to a character on the titles.
Micro elements, lighting. Claustrophobic, gloomy , difficult to see.
music adds suspense.
Morgan Freeman is at this stange the protagonist. He has more screen time, commends dialogue. Weakness-he looks at other details-, isolates him.
Thriller vs. Horror
Horror:
Young cast
Violence (blood and guts)
Focus of the narrative is the violence
multiple victims
lead 'victim' often becomes detective
suburban setting
adults absent, or not supportive
Thriller:
Mature cast, often highly regarded, expensive actors.
Focuses on who did it? why & how?
Often detective is the lead
Victim is not always known to the audiences.
Young cast
Violence (blood and guts)
Focus of the narrative is the violence
multiple victims
lead 'victim' often becomes detective
suburban setting
adults absent, or not supportive
Thriller:
Mature cast, often highly regarded, expensive actors.
Focuses on who did it? why & how?
Often detective is the lead
Victim is not always known to the audiences.
Thriller conventions
Narrative centers around a crime
Binary opposites- protagonist, lead moral. & Antagonist, villain.
Protagonist will have a weakness, this is often reflected in the title (vertigo)
Protagonist will be seen in peril.
Complex web of clues or questions, leads to protagonist being isolated.
Themes of mistaken identity, mirroring & illusions
Objectification of women
Viewer becomes voyeur. (voyeurism, the pleasure of watching/looking without knowing, the viewer acts as the protagonist, trying to figure out what will happen/ has happened)
Micro elements build suspense.
Non-linear narrative.
Binary opposites- protagonist, lead moral. & Antagonist, villain.
Protagonist will have a weakness, this is often reflected in the title (vertigo)
Protagonist will be seen in peril.
Complex web of clues or questions, leads to protagonist being isolated.
Themes of mistaken identity, mirroring & illusions
Objectification of women
Viewer becomes voyeur. (voyeurism, the pleasure of watching/looking without knowing, the viewer acts as the protagonist, trying to figure out what will happen/ has happened)
Micro elements build suspense.
Non-linear narrative.
Thriller mark scheme
Planning and research- Blogs.
Include images, detailed analysis and terminology.
Title and tag posts.
20 marks on Blog, 16/20 = level 4 (very good)
Use Blog as a diary, progress, ideas & editing.
Video- 2 minutes opening sequence.
make own music on Garageband. Use titles and opening credits, be more creative.
Use friends & better location, more detail in props & costume.
We have 2 evenings to film.
Evaluation- same questions as childrens film. Has to be on a powerpoint & individual work.
Include images.
Include images, detailed analysis and terminology.
Title and tag posts.
20 marks on Blog, 16/20 = level 4 (very good)
Use Blog as a diary, progress, ideas & editing.
Video- 2 minutes opening sequence.
make own music on Garageband. Use titles and opening credits, be more creative.
Use friends & better location, more detail in props & costume.
We have 2 evenings to film.
Evaluation- same questions as childrens film. Has to be on a powerpoint & individual work.
Include images.
Thriller rules
No swearing
No weapons in a public place
No filming on the college roof, because Holly will be grumpy about it.
No boring stories
No children, because Holly doesn't like children.
No weapons in a public place
No filming on the college roof, because Holly will be grumpy about it.
No boring stories
No children, because Holly doesn't like children.
Thursday, 6 January 2011
Preliminary Task Film
This preliminary task was more successful then our previous preliminary task because we much more confident than we were to start with because we had used all the equipment before. We also did it a lot faster and without any problems.
Preliminary Task Storyboard
Shot List
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