Feedback from other groups

Positives- Other groups thought that our cinematography like our camera angles and shot types are good and varied.

Generally people liked it.

Negatives- We have found from the feedback of other groups that one negative is that there is to much time opening and closing doors.

There were also mixed reviews about our music some saying we needed more to build tension, however some commented saying it was good.

Credits and titles could have been made clearer or better.

Final Cut

Credits

During todays lesson we are adding our opening credits to our thriller film 'A fool's paradise'. This is proving difficult as we cannot simply add the text without the background. We will focus on removing the back ground this lesson, leaving just the text over the top of the footage of the film.

Sound for our thriller.

We are finding making music for our Thriller 'A fool's paradise' to be very hard as there are only a few different sounds on Garage band; the software we are using.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.

Sound for our thriller.

We are finding making music for our Thriller 'A fool's paradise' to be very hard as there are only a few different sounds on Garage band; the software we are using.
Despite this we have managed to make a good part of the sound, and have agreed that subtle background music will suit our thriller best.
Our Ident will have a windy sound effect over the top of it, to elaborate the motion the ident is doing. In this the Clock is swinging on a noose, being pushed by wind. We will also add a subtle 'ticking' noise over the top of this, if possible.
The diegetic sound in our clips can be very eary, especially after the second dream. The diegetic sound here makes the house the protagonist lives in seem very desolate and lonesome, adding great effect to the protagonists story; that he is lonely.

Technique(s) we could have used.

T2-54 Slow motion.

They used slow motion in a part of there opening sequence. we thought this was affective as it slowed it down and made us focus on it for longer.
We would have liked to use this in some of our dreams but we did not have enough time remaining to do it.

Summarizing Feedback

We agree that some of the sound needs to be edited and that there is too much time focused on opening doors. Next week we will be making the music and editing the sound so that the scream isn't as loud etc. we also need to finish doing our credits.

Rough Cut: Thriller Opening Sequence.

This is our rough cut of our thriller opening sequence. All the clips are edited and together in the right sequence and timing, the ident is on there and we have used motion key to move part of the image on the logo and part of the music is on there.
What we need to do is put the credits on there and also finish off the music by creating the tune or melody on Garage Band.
We are really pleased with what we have achieved so far. The story line flows well and we think the match on actions work really well. the music that is on it so far is also good as it matches the mood of our opening. The ticking sound that we added in sounds like the clock which carries on through the dream and gets louder when in the dream, which works well as it carries on the sound from reality into the dream.

In the next lesson we will be asking our class peers on what they think of our thriller opening sequence so far and getting feedback off them. We can then use their opinions to improve our thriller if need be.

Deadlines

Monday 7th- 9am- filming deadline
Wednesday 9th- 12:20- Rough cut deadline
Thursday 10th- Watching other rough cuts- offering advice ect.
Wednesday 16th- 12:20 - Final cut deadline
Monday 21st - 9am- draft evaluation due in via email.

What our your top tips for filming?

Our top tip for filming is to be organised, follow the shot list to how you planned, in a very concise way to minimise confusion and increase efficiency. We made sure in filming that we all arrived at the shot locations on time to make use of all the time we could, gaining us 20 minutes of filming by the end of our filming. We would also suggest filming a lot more than neccessary incase some of our shots are not satisfactory.

Target audience.

Our target audience will be viewers aged 15+ as 'Fool's Paradise' is certified 15 following BBFC standards. This means we know our audience quite well, for example it is clear to us that our viewers will be mature, and understand the complex story line of our thriller.
Our target audience would enjoy other films such as Se7en or Momento. Both these films are simular to ours in many ways. Se7en used extensive use of quick cuts to add confusion to the scene, we hope to use a simular effect during our film. Momento is simular to our film as continuity throughout the film is confusing. Our film uses flashbacks and such effects also.

Thriller Storyboard

This is our storyboard for our thiller film. The shots that we have drawn on here our roughly what we have done for our actual shot but with a few tweaks here and there. Some are the same shot context but from a different angle.

Location recee

We filmed our Thriller opening sequence at Liams house and in the grounds as it offers a wide range of locations, from Forested areas to a cafe location which we use in the opening shot.
Shot locations:
Cafe location potential problems: As public use this area we may have to ask permission from people in the cafe if they would mind being on the film, however hopefully the cafe will be empty for our use.

We then follow the protagonist to his house where he lives, this house is Liams and is therefore owned by a family. This causes some problems.
House location potential problems: As Liam has more family members, unlike the protagonist, we will have to hide decorations in the house such as family photos or shoes to give the impression the protagonist lives by himself. Lighting in the living room was very dull and the only light offered was dim lighting through the windows or lighting from the light in the ceiling. This light in the ceiling was very orange so may give a more positive lighting effect for a negative feeling scene.

The dream sequence in our thriller 'Fool's Paradise' is filmed in a forested area, this offers more problems.
Forested location potential problems: The ground on this area may not be level so footing will be hard, especially if we film in the dark. Also this location may have stones on the foor where out Female part will have to fall on the floor, this is a problem we will over come by scouting the floor for potential harmful materials, such as big sticks or stones.

As all our shots were filmed at or in Liams grounds we knew there would not be too many problems with the public being in shot and we could use the locations when we wanted. This was benificial as we didn't have to research the local area so much.
From each of our shots we could hear the main road nearby Liam's house. This added an urban effect to the shots, which may help the viewers identify with the location easier.
Liam's little sister was abscent from the house, which was a good thing as she would not get in the way during filming.

Filming Our Thriller

We filmed our Thriller project over the weekend of 12th - 13th of February. Most the filming was done on the Saturday, which was about 4 hours of filming capturing about 15 minutes of film. On Sunday there was only a bit left to film which was the dream sequence so we were only filming for about an hour and a half. At the end of the weekend we have come away with just over 150 clips so we need to do a lot of editing to cut the clip to the 2 minutes.
Over all we think that our filming was very successful. We got many clips, some which we probably won't need but we got all the clis that we wanted to get.

How we can improve for our Thriller 'Fool's Paradise'.

Taking to account feedback and our own feelings towards our childrens film, we agreed that we need to improve on our Dialogue and Diegetic sound. During the filming of our Childrens film we did not have a script set up, so we improvised the script when we got to the set. We have realised this was a bad idea as preporation is key to filming to a set scheme. Also writing a script will enable us to highlight any negatives or problems in the script. We can also practice our dialogue before hand. Diegetic sound in our childrens film was an issue, especially during Liams monologue where we could hear a shower in the back groud, this made the dialogue harder to hear.

Postitives and Negatives of our Childrens Film

Positives:

Motion key

We used motion key in the credits at the start of our children's film opening. This is more advanced than just adding text as the credits move across the screen as you choose them to do. We will be using this technique in our thriller project.

Match on Action

We like the match on action that we have used in this task as it fits well with the sequence. It helps show where about the character is as well.

Music

The music that we added into the film opening was done on garage band. It worked well as it fitted the mood of what was going on on screen, empathetic music.




Good Story Line

People from another group who gave us feedback said that our story line was good as it made sense and was relative to the genre.

Negatives:

Dialogue

The speaking in the film opening could have been spoken more clearly. The script could have been better planned so that the dialogue flowed more within the clip.

Diegetic sound

There is some diegetic sound that was not edited out of our film opening.

Transitions

The transitions that we had were good but we need more variety and more of them.










           

call sheet research

A call sheet is a film making term for a sheet of paper issued to the cast and crew of a film production, created by an Assistant director, informing them where and when they should report for a particular day of shooting. They also have other useful information like casts contacts (phone numbers e.t.c) and which scenes are going to be shot on that day.

Stages to take in order to succeed.

What we need to do?
-Make a time scheme (locations, times, directions.)
-Script writing.
-Story boarding.
-Test shooting.
-Shooting.
-Editing.

writing script. Always do it. write it down in a simple way, actions and emotions.
'ext' 'int'.

Walk through the script. act it out, if possible at the location. this will help identify problems with script or with potential locations.
Helps find problems early.

Location recce. Find locations and diagnose any problems. make notes on what you see/hear. Take photographs. Source local information, car park, toilets, food, camera batteries etc. know everything about our location. Check weather.

Digital storyboard. Go to location and take a variety of different frames, angles and shot types. Print them or put them on your phones as reference for filming. Use google earth to get birds eye view of location maps.

Shot list. Always have a shot list. Annotate your script.

Test shots. Get used to the location.
Get used to the equipment.
Help polish up your script.
Identify props/ costumes needed. (Make up.)
Helps the edit process.
Will definitely help you before the real shoot.

Shooting schedule. Organise your shooting, day/time?
What restrictions do we have (deadlines)

Film your final shoot.

Presentations Q&A

Do we have permission to film in the coffee shop? As the coffee shop is owned by Liams parents he was able to ask them if we will be allowed to film in the coffee shop, we have been given permission, generously.

How will day dreams or night dreams differentiate from 'normal' life filming? We have a few ideas as to how we will make it obvious a flash back is happening, however we need to make a clear distinction between a day dream and a night dream, as night dreams are more disturbing. We will make the flashbacks obvious that they are a memory by perhaps adding echos to the characters voices, this may work as the protagonists memory is not perfect, so the bluring of the speech adds to the lack of information (change this if you don't like it, just a suggestion guys;) We have also considered making the flashbacks black and white.

Does the Protagonist know he is the antagonist also? The protagonist is unaware that he is also the antagonist, however if given the chance to film the whole film, it would follow the protagonists 'adventure' to find out, by stringing together clues, that he is the antagonist.

How are we presenting the credits? We analysed the opening sequence of Se7en and decided amongst us that the credits are really effective, and relevant to the film. Se7en uses quick shots and jump cuts of quite disturbing imagery whilst the credits are rolling, in a strange unfarmiliar font. Since we used a more advanced type of credits on the Childrens opening sequence, we feel we should go one step further and advance it further; perhaps by creating out own font on Photoshop, as opposed to the set fonts supplied by Final Cut.

What music will we use? As our movie is certified 15 we decided that the music should be more mature. Following thriller conventions we must creat a lot of suspense, using 'cresendos' (music getting louder) and loud noises. We will also use diegetic sound in the coffee shop, however as these sounds may be too quiet to pick up on camera we may need to record typical 'coffee shop noises' and add them over the top of the filming.

Mise-en-scene of our thriller

Mise-en-scene: 


Props- Knife, Kettle, Blood, Tea, coffee, cups, everyday items, Bed, newspaper


Costume- Everyday clothes, Suede coat,  Waiters outfit, pjs

Make Up- Blood to show been stabbed, bruises


Set- The site of darwin nurseries and farm shop, wooded area, cafe, kitchen, bedroom,


Colour- Dark colours mostley plain. black and white affect for flash backs.


Lighting- Dark for the flashbacks, natural.

Fool's Paradise, 'snap down'.

0-10 seconds - Ident 'Clockwork productions.
11-20 seconds - 'day dream whilst waiting for kettle' cuts back to kettle. Point of view shot of Lucy being killed, the identity of the killer is kept secret.
21-30 seconds - awakes from the day dream. coffee man pours him coffee, asks if he is alright. notes something down.
31-40 seconds - looks at the newspaper, zooms in on the headline about murder.
41 - 50 seconds - reads the title and walks out the shop and back home
51 - 60 seconds - goes into his house, into the lounge, looks stressed
61 - 70 seconds - flash back, a bit more information about the killing comes back
71 - 80 seconds - writes another note down about the flash backs
81 - 90 seconds - its getting dark so closes the curtains but looks through the window first, then locks the door.
91 - 100 seconds - goes to bed
101 - 110 seconds - a dream about the killing, credits start to roll.
111 - 120 seconds -Credits finish as protagonist wakes up from the dream in shock.